If a convicted rapist is living in your neighborhood, what would you do?
Submitted 161 days ago by linda8615
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Not care unless they do something.
i have one who tried to kidnap my niece and pistol whipped her, and tried to rape her, right across the street from me. I prefer to have him there so i could watch him. He was convicted three times of rape before he assaulted my niece, sentenced to 40 years and got out in three years.
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Jessica's Law says that an offender cannot live within 1000 ft of the property line of his victim.
I think your straw man's slip is showing.
they did do something...want them to do it again?
If you stole a car, does that mean your going to jack a car again? No. If you used to smoke cigarettes, does taht automatically mean you are going to relapse and start smoking again? No. Just cause you raped someone, doesn't mean your going to rape again.
And btw, 73% of rape victims know their assaulter [http://www.rainn.org/statistics] so while your waisting your time on your neighbor that you know nothing about, you should probably be watching out for your dad or his best friend, they are more likely to rape you our your child, not they guy across the street.
rapists, pedophiles, incest is not comparable to stealing, smoking. the recidivism rate is high for rapists, pedophiles, and just because 73% of rape victims know their attackers, does not answer my question, nor does it make it right. my niece certainly knows her attacker, NOW! so do we... and i am keeping a watchful eye on him... oh, and p.s. where were you when i was growing up? not watching my dad or his friends, i'll bet...
I answered the question "Not care unless they do something", it is right there up top. And i guess your niece is in the minority 27%, being that she was raped by someone she didn't know.
And 1,192,809 cars are stolen yearly, only 272,350 victims of rape. Knowing this, and the fact that only 27% of rape victims don't know their assaulter, i would be more worried of my daughter getting her car stolen, not being raped by some guy down the street.
And btw, of the people who have committed rape and were rearrested within 3-years, only 18.6% were being arrested for a "violent offense", and being that rape is in the category, i assume, the numbers of the these "repeat offenders" is actually quite low.
SIGH!
Double Sigh!
well, first of all, what type of person would give take up so much for a violent rapist. Some people actually do not have dads, or uncles who commit sex crimes. You can defend a rapist , thats your decision. Im sure there are plenty fo women somewhere in your family, how will you feel if a stranger rapes them? If you want to fight the majority of this post on the rapists side, we really have nothing left to say to you. Youre making it sound like you have raped, if they do not reoffend, do tell us your history, dont be ashamed. Rapist or not, your getting yourself into the same level, by taking a rapist side and defending.
I think that the conclusions you have drawn from juno's post are unfair, if I was him I'd be offended. He is quoting statistics which support his original stance of not being too worried unless they reoffended. He is pointing out that since statistically rape is much less likely than other crimes and is usually not committed by strangers, there's not much point worrying about it. He's right, what is the point worrying about it? Thirteen people a year die putting on their pants, am I going to worry about that, no. I don't see him defending rapists anywhere.
Lest I too be painted with the above brush, let me state right off that ad hominem attacks will be cheerfully ignored.
Standing up for the wrongfully charged and the downtrodden is the right thing to do; accusing someone who stands up for the weak as being weak is ridiculous on its face.
What did you call those white people who supported the black people's rights to go to the same schools as the whites or to sit on the front of the bus or at the same lunch counters? N****r lovers??
let me interject a comment on your comment about white people who supported black people's rights. i am a white person with many black friends and i for one stood next to, sat next to and was friends with many black persons in my school and work. don't go calling the race card on me. i stand up for the wrongfully accused, but the man i am talking about is a sex offender who was convicted of raping four women before he accosted and tried to rape my niece. and as for my dad, and his friend, they are all dead. and rotting in hell, i hope. i stand up for the underdog, many times to be chastised for my stance, so don't go pulling that damn race card on me.
I hear you, and sympathize, but it depends on the rape charge. I know of a 18 year old kid who got arrested for rape because he had sex with his 17 year old girlfriend, and her parents pressed charges because he was black. He now has to register as a sex offender for the rest of his life. Obviously, he is not in the same category as the guy across the street from you.
I feel there is a differnce there as well. It can be consential, but, if under 18, it is a law, even though the girl wasnt raped and emotionally scarred. I dont consider it rape when both parties agree.
That's true. The recidivism rate for sex offenders is MUCH lower than that of thieves.
I'm sure we're all sorry your dad and his friends molested you, but continually punishing those who have paid their debt to society won't ease you pain.
Well, I tend not to pay attention to neighbourhood gossip, but assuming I had what could be considered absolutely reliable information that a person in my neighbourhood was a convicted rapist I pretty much agree with juno, I wouldn't really *do* anything.
Probably wouldn't be ecstatic about it, but I wouldn't consider myself or family or friends in greater danger because of it.
Not to give you the impression that I am being flip about my response, but here in the states, we have a national sex offender registry, and we can find where they live, what their crimes were, and the victims identity is hopefully protected. I am not going on gossip, I am going on the national sex registry and what the newspapers told us and the attorneys told us and what the policemen told us. Now I find myself in this situation, where a convicted rapist is living across the street. It is not neighborhood gossip. let me ask you a question, if your loved one were put in the same position as my loved one, and you were in my position, what would you do? learn to castrate? i know how to castrate, however, that would get me in more trouble than he has been in.
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[2 points] 160 days ago by deleted user ReplyI didn't say it was gossip, I was merely making it clear that I would only believe it if it was irrefutable.
My loved one being actually raped is not the same situation as a rapist just moving in down the street. I'm very sorry your neice suffered such a horrific attack but your question is quite clear. Any neighbourhood harbours potential dangers, most of them we don't ever know about. Just knowing a rapist lives there doesn't change things.
I recall a man here was "named and shamed" by a newspaper as a paedophile, printed his picture and his address. Guy got beaten up, his home was attacked, life made hell. He was innocent, the paper mixed him up with someone else. I think some time later I read a follow up that his life was still being made difficult. I don't think we should facilitate people pre-emptively taking the law into their own hands.
That reminds me of why I have trouble in agreeing with the death penalty.
OK so this guy is not dead, but he could easily have been, and there is nothing that anyone can do that will erase his terror and give him back what he has lost.
The mob is bad enough by itself, but the mob/media combination is absolutely deadly!
There was a spate of this stuff in the press and all these demo and protests a while back in the UK.
There was the really scary case of someone who was threatened because some morons heard they worked as a paediatrician!
The moronic masses are really scary!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/901723.stm
The moronic masses - good description. It really is frightening to think of what they can get up to.
One of my favourite T-shirts says "Beware of stupid people in large groups"!
Yes, and that law has been used to harass WRONGLY CONVICTED innocent people. Unfortunately, in the U.S. it is all about conviction, not guilt or innocence. There are as many or more people wrongly convicted of lesser crimes than there are of capital crimes. And, as the Ronald Cotton case, and every study ever done on the matter proves, eye witness testimony is not worth anything. Mistaken eye-witness testimony is the single biggest cause of wrongful conviction. So basically, the sex offender registry gives us the chance to continue to destroy innocent people's live once they are out of the criminal justice system.
I think that depends on where you are used to living as well. Where I live, there is no rapist in the immediate area, and if there was, yes there would be a problem. Now, if I was raised somewhere say in a high crime area, i may not give it much thought. Im not saying you were raised in that type area, just giving an example.
Well to be honest, I think people in high crime areas would be as bothered by a rapist living next door as anybody else. You can become inured to robberies etc but rapists are a class of criminal apart. Nobody likes them much.
That is very true, I think they may be in a different class even in prison. I guess the shock of , say , a murder, is not as shocking to someone who lives in an area with a high murder rate. Comparing that to a person who has lived in a low murder rate area, that person may think and fear more about murders once it happened in their area. I guess once you are exposed to something, you can handle things a bit differently than if not exposed.
Why should one person do anything about it? Every country should do something about them. In my country sentences for pedophilia or rape are just few months or couple of years - not even close enough for that kind of crime. Not to mention that just a few cases end up in a court. I believe pedophilia is an illness and many pedophiles proved it that it (in many cases) cannot be cured. Should we lock them up? It's not right to execute them (I also wouldn't execute anyone) but what pedophiles are doing is worth of harsh punisment. Why don't they castrate (or neuter) them? Many people in Slovenia believe that pedophiles are more protected than their victims. In many cases the name of the victim becomes known to public while they try to hide the name of pedophile so that people wouldn't judge him/her. Just to think that there are also countries with even worse attitude towards this.
Women are considered worse thanlower class, in many many countries, US included. you are right, every country should do something. Here in the states, you are innocent until proven guilty, even if they have you on tape pulling a gun, witnesses watching you, cops pulling up as you leave the area, and you are just a suspect. and innocent until proven guilty and if you have enough money, you are innocent because you have more money...
Here is where I bring up my Three Strike rule again. If you molest a child or rape someone for the third time, you are a dead man. This is a sick animal and needs to be removed from the planet. He has had two chances to right his ways and failed, the gov should take over and eliminate him from the DNA pool.
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This certainly appears to be a case which would fit your idea quite well.
I am still intrigued how someone with that record got out of jail so quickly.
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[3 points] 160 days ago by deleted user ReplyNormally I would agree with you.
We have a justice system to take cae of these things.
If someone has committed a crime and done their time, they deserve to be treated fairly unless there are unusual circumstances.
I want to know more about this case, but from the impression I get from the comments there seem to be exactly those unusual circumstances here.
If she's good looking I might invite her for coffee and hope to become a victim. :)
I noticed on the web page of offenders in my area there really are two women. Unfortunately they aren't hot at all. :(
I don't think a attractive woman would have to result to offense to get laid
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btw, I'd try to "convince" the person to move, make his life a little harder, without using violence, or damaging his property, that wold be rude.
Believe it or not, there ARE some attractive women in Sex Addicts Anonymous. Heck, I was thinking about joining to offer to help ease them back onto the straight and narrow road if they should ever sense a relapse coming on. :-')
What a fine upstanding citizen you are chip :))
Thank you, thank you!!!
Chip finally gets some well-deserved recognition!!! :-')
You are sick, Chip!
comments like chips are the reason i quit responding to anyone! they were making me sick!
<sniff> :-(
why sniff, you got a reason for you rude comments? or were you trying to be funny and it backfired on you? or were you trying to get a rise out of me? no matter what, you failed in your sick attempt at whatever your reasoning was.
linda, sorry you have been upset, I'm pretty sure from reading many debates on here that no offence was intended.
Sometimes black humour can be upsetting to others, and we forget that at times.
Please don't give up.
I really would like to know the answers to the questions I raised in my longer post below.
linda8615, liking sex and being open about it does not make for a sex offender, quite the opposite. Looking on your stance on sex offenders, I thought you would have understood those comments. Sure they seem off topic and childish, but they should not make you feel sick.
I get a LOT of feedback. I don't expect to be able to please EVERYONE.
In fact, wouldn't we be pretty dull people if in fact we did please everyone?
No one expects to please everyone, but we do strive to be civilized.
Contact the Department of Public Safety in your state.
Or contact;
http://www.usaonwatch.org/
I don't believe anybody's life deserves to "be made hell" because of their past actions. Doing so only propagates the violence that was, in some cases, started many many years ago.
All the same, if I learned that the creepy-looking guy across the street who stares at my daughters when they're playing outside was a former rapist, I'd probably tell my daughters to play in the back yard and have them skip his house while selling girl scout cookies.
But then, even If such a creepster wasn't a former rapist, I'd do the same thing. There's a point when it's a matter of self-preservation, but I think that's pretty much independent of a person's past.
Just based on the question, my initial answer would be to do nothing also.
However having read Linda's comments and responses this case does not seem a usual one, so perhaps some action would be appropriate.
My first action would be to find out how on earth someone sentanced to 40 years got out after 3.
Here in UK our judicial punishment is rather pittiful too, and repeat offenders are often released early (for good behaviour!) but they generally do at least half their time, and are released early under supervision if considered possible re-offenders.
My personal view is that people capable of these crimes, should not be returned to society, then there would be no re-offenders, but I am realist enough to know no party has the guts to do that.
So depending on what happened, is there some way to get him back in court from a different angle, maybe a human rights violation?
I don't think a confrontation will do you any good.
Not knowing your neighborhood I can't guess how fliers would do.
making their life hell seems a reasonable option, as long as you stay within the law, it would be to cruel for you to end up in jail while this creep is free to walk the streets.
can you organise a group to act? do fundraising for legal help to get him to complete his sentence.
I would say your main weapon is information.
Get as much as you can, file it, analyse it, get to know him better than he knows himself.
Information is power.
Any milage in a newspaper letter writing campaign?
A info website perhaps?
Would be interested to know how he got out so quickly.
I'd do nothing. I know a person convicted of rape because he kissed a girl who was 13, who wanted to kiss him. to me, that's not rape, but TN feels differently. in some countries, girls are required to be married by the age of 13. so I guess "rape" can be defined many ways, if enough idiots are writing the laws.
You have to look at it case by case.
The one you mention seems just as crazy as the one this relate too.
Act if action is required, leave things alone if they don't.