I speak with people in Eur, Asia and the Middle East every day, everywhere Bush went there were large protests, did you hear?
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I speak with people in Eur, Asia and the Middle East every day, everywhere Bush went there were large protests, did you hear?(Please click yes or no)
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CNN has more important things to talk about then hypocritical people in the U.K, Netherlands, or whatever, who's leaders are as well sliding their fingers in the same bag of chips that Bush is...
Actually, our current leader did not make the decision to pal up with Bush on the fiasco of the war in Iraq and furthermore, we didn't vote Brown in, he came to be our "esteemed" leader when Tony Blair stepped down. In fact, he was opposed to our extremely close ties with the Bush administration and the war.
We didn't re-elect a clearly inept lunatic to run our country, we made Tony's position untenable as Prime Minister. So enough of the mudslinging, you clearly know less about Europeans than you think.
Remember your rants about foreigners spouting falsehoods about your country before you start typing about other countries next time.
[3 points]109 days ago by SpangeNWReplyEdited 109 days ago by SpangeNW
I find it very difficult to imagine that Brown had no part to play in our current involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan. I don't think that cooljuno meant that all UK Citizens are hypocrites
[2 points]109 days ago by BristolReplyEdited 109 days ago by Bristol
No you're right, I'm sure he played some part in it, he really had no choice to be honest if he wanted to continue his political career - anybody who didn't publicly oppose the war is basically complicit. I question how it might have panned out had he been in charge - perhaps not hugely differently.
The point is though, that it wasn't his decision, we didn't vote him in anyway, and juno needs to learn to practice what he preaches. I wouldn't normally feel the need to speak out, but his whiny sermonising on how the US is victimised by the rest of the world and unfairly labelled by us damnable, ignorant foreigners has quite frankly seriously irritated me today. This question is really about the US media cherry picking what to report but he has used it as a grubby corner on which to set up his pet soapbox.
[1 point]109 days ago by SpangeNWReplyEdited 109 days ago by SpangeNW
I didn't rise to his invective by choice you understand, the cloud of methane evolved by the decomposition of the effluent he continues to produce exploded and I was caught in the updraft.
[2 points]109 days ago by SpangeNWReplyEdited 109 days ago by SpangeNW
Just because you don't want your leader eating the same pie as bush is, doesn't change the fact that your leader cut a slice for him and now they are enjoying it together....
Yes, but you can see our 16-year-olds certainly think they're well versed in international politics. You can also see they have no concept of loyalty and like to blame our allies for believing our leader's lies - the same way Americans did.
[0 points]109 days ago by sillynillyReplyEdited 109 days ago by sillynilly
Your point of view stands out. Thanks for another reasoned intervention. Not that we need any. The discussion was improved though. I will continue to evaluate your interjections through a haze of tea
[1 point]109 days ago by BristolReplyEdited 109 days ago by Bristol
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Bitch you come from Ohio, their they don't respect children, you guys are always "send the kid to the store", "get the kid to get you it", or "all the kids outside"..... That would not fly up in Cali....
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Yeah - you're right. I'd never send you to the store. With your #47 education you probably couldn't find your way there OR back and probably steal my money and run off with a man you met on the internet.
We hear about the Chinese restricting Internet content to its people. We hear about state-owned media in Russia and how they control what is seen. Yet, the same thing is happening here -- by the major media colluding to block stories at the behest of Bush and company.
That happens here in the U.S. too.... And those people better protest their leaders too, because most likely their country is in the mud just like the U.S. It's just more "lets find another way to blame the U.S. for our troubles" propaganda.... No wonder there economies can't compare to ours, they need some American thinking, which includes "take responsibility for yourself and your actions", or "all talking does is waste a breath, action gets something done"... These American values is what makes the U.S. so great, and what leads to our great economy.... and maybe if they follow suite too, they could be as great as us...
[2 points]110 days ago by cooljuno411ReplyEdited 109 days ago by cooljuno411
Yes I heard, Bush in no more liked in the rest of the world than he is in his own country. If 75% of Americans dislike him, what would make you think that anyone else in the world.
Today, according to the most recent CNN/Opinion Research Corp. survey, '71 percent of the American public disapproves of how Bush is handling his job as President, an all-time high in polling.' His position can be compared with that of Harry Truman who left Washington unpopular and alone in 1953. Today, with the passage of time, most historians and certainly the American people, see Truman in a different light, primarily for his willingness to stand firm against Soviet aggression, whether against Greece or South Korea, and proclaim the Truman Doctrine, effectively defending the free world from Soviet efforts to expand their hegemony. Like Truman, George W. Bush, in my view, will be seen as one of the few world leaders who recognized the danger of Islamic terrorism and was willing with Tony Blair to stand up to it and not capitulate... The reason I believe history will redeem President George W. Bush is that he is one of the few leaders on the planet today who understands the larger picture. He has not lost his courage and vision of the future. He knows what calamities await the world if it engages in appeasement and deserts an ally in order to buy an illusory peace. We will recognize his worth long after he is gone.
Standing up to terrorism is a good thing. It should be done. We should and could have gone full force into Afghanistan to disarm both Al Qaeda and Osama (both of whom we armed in the first place ... but let's not go there) but that's ... ummm ... not exactly what we did, now is it?
And don't try to compare Harry Truman to Bush. Harry was unpopular for telling the truth when people didn't want to hear it. George is disliked for NOT telling the truth when we DEMANDED to hear it. Somehow being told that "Osama doesn't have anything to do with it ..." just sticks to my armpit like recently shaved hair.
[1 point]109 days ago by sillynillyReplyEdited 109 days ago by sillynilly
This poll is revealing - people is Europe were aware of the anti-Bush protests - we were not. If our media is supposed to be so liberal - why wasn't it covered here?
As in American, only the liberals in other countries dislike Bush. Ask the question in the right place, 75% of the people will say they love Bush and wish he could get a third term.
Where's that? Iraq? Damn. Too bad those 50 - 150k Iraqis (depending on whom you listen to) can't vote. I'd bet they would like to vote. And I'd like to hear what they have to say. Oops. Guess that won't happen.
Another vote I'd like to hear? The 4102 (4415 total coalition) dead soldiers. Would they lay down their lives again? Of THAT I have no doubt. I'm sure every single one of them regretted they had "but one life to give for their country." But now that they're on the other side and have had time to contemplate the wisdom of past experience and gained the ability to see into other's hearts, minds and souls? I'd REALLY like to hear what they have to say. Oops. I guess we'll never know. Here's hoping someday I'll have the chance to meet them, shake their hands and thank them for their sacrifice. And then I'd like to hear them tell me if they thought the sacrifice of their life and loss of the REST of their lives was worth this BULLSHIT called the "Iraq War."
[0 points]107 days ago by sillynillyReplyEdited 107 days ago by sillynilly
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Is it surprising that we don't hear these things?
Don't you listen to the radio, read papers or watch TV?
No--but heading into a Faire, I don't check with other news sources either.
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CNN has more important things to talk about then hypocritical people in the U.K, Netherlands, or whatever, who's leaders are as well sliding their fingers in the same bag of chips that Bush is...
Actually, our current leader did not make the decision to pal up with Bush on the fiasco of the war in Iraq and furthermore, we didn't vote Brown in, he came to be our "esteemed" leader when Tony Blair stepped down. In fact, he was opposed to our extremely close ties with the Bush administration and the war.
We didn't re-elect a clearly inept lunatic to run our country, we made Tony's position untenable as Prime Minister. So enough of the mudslinging, you clearly know less about Europeans than you think.
Remember your rants about foreigners spouting falsehoods about your country before you start typing about other countries next time.
I find it very difficult to imagine that Brown had no part to play in our current involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan. I don't think that cooljuno meant that all UK Citizens are hypocrites
No you're right, I'm sure he played some part in it, he really had no choice to be honest if he wanted to continue his political career - anybody who didn't publicly oppose the war is basically complicit. I question how it might have panned out had he been in charge - perhaps not hugely differently.
The point is though, that it wasn't his decision, we didn't vote him in anyway, and juno needs to learn to practice what he preaches. I wouldn't normally feel the need to speak out, but his whiny sermonising on how the US is victimised by the rest of the world and unfairly labelled by us damnable, ignorant foreigners has quite frankly seriously irritated me today. This question is really about the US media cherry picking what to report but he has used it as a grubby corner on which to set up his pet soapbox.
Very true. You shouldn't rise to this invective. Take all these arguments evenly. We are Europeans. Let's stand for reason!
I didn't rise to his invective by choice you understand, the cloud of methane evolved by the decomposition of the effluent he continues to produce exploded and I was caught in the updraft.
I suppose that must be a fart
In my mind it was more of the order of spontaneously combusting dung heaps, but you feel free to interpret as you will.
And I agree with you!!!
Just because you don't want your leader eating the same pie as bush is, doesn't change the fact that your leader cut a slice for him and now they are enjoying it together....
This is a case of you not knowing a great deal about that which you are talking.
Well, don't look at us. We didn't re-elect him either. ;-)
Not all Europeans are hypocrites; surely...
Yes, but you can see our 16-year-olds certainly think they're well versed in international politics. You can also see they have no concept of loyalty and like to blame our allies for believing our leader's lies - the same way Americans did.
Your point of view stands out. Thanks for another reasoned intervention. Not that we need any. The discussion was improved though. I will continue to evaluate your interjections through a haze of tea
... is it really good tea??
I have never drank better. Do drink "Twinnings". You never regret
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Didn't y'all see i had a motha-fuck'n birthday : ]
Well, happy birthday. Now CLEAN UP YOUR MOUTH! That kind of language will always make you look like a child. And nobody respects kid's opinions.
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Bitch you come from Ohio, their they don't respect children, you guys are always "send the kid to the store", "get the kid to get you it", or "all the kids outside"..... That would not fly up in Cali....
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Yeah - you're right. I'd never send you to the store. With your #47 education you probably couldn't find your way there OR back and probably steal my money and run off with a man you met on the internet.
Evderybody, say happy birthday to little Josh.
Spoken like a true half-wit. Bring on Paris (Hilton, that is) and the missing girl in Auruba. CNN has more important stuff to do?
We hear about the Chinese restricting Internet content to its people. We hear about state-owned media in Russia and how they control what is seen. Yet, the same thing is happening here -- by the major media colluding to block stories at the behest of Bush and company.
There has been protests for one reason or another every where any of the last 4 or 5 US presidents went.
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[3 points] 110 days ago by deleted user ReplyThat happens here in the U.S. too.... And those people better protest their leaders too, because most likely their country is in the mud just like the U.S. It's just more "lets find another way to blame the U.S. for our troubles" propaganda.... No wonder there economies can't compare to ours, they need some American thinking, which includes "take responsibility for yourself and your actions", or "all talking does is waste a breath, action gets something done"... These American values is what makes the U.S. so great, and what leads to our great economy.... and maybe if they follow suite too, they could be as great as us...
Like Toyota vs GM.
He doesn't know InBev is buying Budweiser, so now he'll have to drink all foreigner's beers! :-)
In five years when he's legal, Jim Beam could be Chinese.
The USA news gives a sanitised version of the world to it's citizens.
You better believe it. What will it take to get you to take Murdock back? PLEASE? I've already offered you free airfare ...
Yes I heard, Bush in no more liked in the rest of the world than he is in his own country. If 75% of Americans dislike him, what would make you think that anyone else in the world.
Today, according to the most recent CNN/Opinion Research Corp. survey, '71 percent of the American public disapproves of how Bush is handling his job as President, an all-time high in polling.' His position can be compared with that of Harry Truman who left Washington unpopular and alone in 1953. Today, with the passage of time, most historians and certainly the American people, see Truman in a different light, primarily for his willingness to stand firm against Soviet aggression, whether against Greece or South Korea, and proclaim the Truman Doctrine, effectively defending the free world from Soviet efforts to expand their hegemony. Like Truman, George W. Bush, in my view, will be seen as one of the few world leaders who recognized the danger of Islamic terrorism and was willing with Tony Blair to stand up to it and not capitulate... The reason I believe history will redeem President George W. Bush is that he is one of the few leaders on the planet today who understands the larger picture. He has not lost his courage and vision of the future. He knows what calamities await the world if it engages in appeasement and deserts an ally in order to buy an illusory peace. We will recognize his worth long after he is gone.
Standing up to terrorism is a good thing. It should be done. We should and could have gone full force into Afghanistan to disarm both Al Qaeda and Osama (both of whom we armed in the first place ... but let's not go there) but that's ... ummm ... not exactly what we did, now is it?
And don't try to compare Harry Truman to Bush. Harry was unpopular for telling the truth when people didn't want to hear it. George is disliked for NOT telling the truth when we DEMANDED to hear it. Somehow being told that "Osama doesn't have anything to do with it ..." just sticks to my armpit like recently shaved hair.
That's some high-grade stuff you're smoking! sillynilly's comment says it all.
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[1 point] 107 days ago byThis poll is revealing - people is Europe were aware of the anti-Bush protests - we were not. If our media is supposed to be so liberal - why wasn't it covered here?
is this question stupid or what?
As in American, only the liberals in other countries dislike Bush. Ask the question in the right place, 75% of the people will say they love Bush and wish he could get a third term.
Where's that? Iraq? Damn. Too bad those 50 - 150k Iraqis (depending on whom you listen to) can't vote. I'd bet they would like to vote. And I'd like to hear what they have to say. Oops. Guess that won't happen.
Another vote I'd like to hear? The 4102 (4415 total coalition) dead soldiers. Would they lay down their lives again? Of THAT I have no doubt. I'm sure every single one of them regretted they had "but one life to give for their country." But now that they're on the other side and have had time to contemplate the wisdom of past experience and gained the ability to see into other's hearts, minds and souls? I'd REALLY like to hear what they have to say. Oops. I guess we'll never know. Here's hoping someday I'll have the chance to meet them, shake their hands and thank them for their sacrifice. And then I'd like to hear them tell me if they thought the sacrifice of their life and loss of the REST of their lives was worth this BULLSHIT called the "Iraq War."
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