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Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of results. Different forms of liberalism may propose very different policies, but they are generally united by their support for a number of principles, including extensive freedom of thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market or mixed economy, and a transparent system of government.[2] All liberals — as well as some adherents of other political ideologies — support some variant of the form of government known as liberal democracy, with open and fair elections, where all citizens have equal rights by law.[3]

gosh, how AWFUL!!!

Ewe should be ashamed of yourself, supporting freedom like that!!!

After reading "On Liberty" by J.S.Mill, I was left wondering why so many Republicans in America use this as a term meant to offend, when so much of what it is to be a republican is based on liberal ideals...

lol, I've been wondering the same thing...

Ignorance. And their anti-intelliectualism demands it of them. They're quite proud of their narrow-mindedness, lack of empathy and inability to understand much of anything past the end of their street. And they get really cranky if you talk about any want or need other than THEIR want or need. There are a few exceptions, of course, but they're few and far between.

Couldn't agree more. I used to canvass 5 days a week, 52 weeks a year, for 5 and one half years. I talked to a LOT of people, and your description of a Republican is pretty much right on. As I am neither Rep nor Dem, and haven't been since I started reading history and political science as an adult (around 1985), I feel that I am relatively unbiased on this.

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While you are somewhat correct in you definition - that is not what liberalism has stood for in America. The term "Liberal" does not mean what it should in this country.

Maybe not, but what conservatives fail to realize is that is how liberals define themselves.

It means what it means. TheSHeep's description covers it pretty well, judging by the liberals I have known. A desire to limit the powers of fictive entities (corporations) does not negate this.

Hmmm...you know what? That political opponents have CHANGED the perception of the meaning of the word says quite alot about them, don't you think?

Yes. It is the hallmark of a propagandist.

Being ignorant is nothing to be proud of.

The biggest problem I have with "liberalism" as it's often practiced is "equality of results". Regardless of effort, skill or circumstances all results should be equal. No winners, no losers, just equality. That's a huge motivator to do nothing and get the same results as someone who has worked their tail off to acheive. And if an acheiver should benefit from their efforts the "liberal" wants to take their reward from them and "share" it with those who put forth no effort at all.

Cite an example in support of your argument.

Kids being advanced in school so they don't "feel bad" about being left behind their friends. Everyone getting a trophy in little league so they don't "feel bad" about not winning the championship. Everything is becoming based on self-esteem without having to do anything to boost your own self-esteem.

Society is replete with examples if you're willing to recognize them for what they are. Sadly, too many aren't.

I want to make sure I understand. So, if i were to pick the most historically conservative county in America, I would not find any of the examples you note above, correct? That is, I would find them in liberal areas, but certainly not in THE MOST CONSERVATIVE places in America, right?

I've never heard of any of those things being associated with liberal viewpoints before. Are you sure you're not just making stuff up?

I certainly don't agree with the first two sentences. The third is sufficiently vague as to be meaningless.

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Dude, I'm as liberal as they come. Don't tell me what you think I believe is true, when I know damn well I don't agree with those.

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It's a fair enough argument against socialism

but you don't seem to "get" liberalism at all!

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